Astressin-B– Important Notice/Alert
Sarah Campeau 
We have posted this alert before, but today we received worrying news of patients allegedly injecting themselves with topical solutions of Astressin-B.
I can’t stress enough how dangerous doing something like this is. Not only has the compound not been deemed safe, but injecting a solution that is intended to be used topically is boarder line insane. Please contact us in case you see people discussing this topic in forums or discussing groups so that we can intervene and help.
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That’s insane Sarah! First & foremost where do they get astressin- b from to inject it… at the same time I feel so sorry for people as I understand how emotionally devastating it can be to lose one’s hair from scalp including myself. A little more patience is all it takes until human trials are carried out people!
I have been going thorough your site for quite sometime now.Though i didnt come across anyone injecting topical solutions,but i did see a debate in the hairsite blog wherein a person claimed he has got astressin B from some dealer(Probably Chinese ) and others debating how it is to be used
http://www.hairsite.com/hair-loss/board_entry.php?id=92925&page=0&category=1&order=last_answer&descasc=DESC#p93000
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Dear Sarah!
There always be people with ill ideas in every aspect of life. Most hairloss patients are adults, therefore they can read and understand product instructions and decide what to do. Stupidity factor is always there, and cannot be cured. It’s not your responsibility Sarah, you have made numerous warnings to people. The manufacturer of this product should warn them, if any.
John, there was no mention to a specific product, as a matter of fact, that was quite disrespectful, feel free to continue to follow our updates but comments of that nature no longer have no place in this community.
Gemma
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I’m thinking about purchasing and injecting some Astressin-B.
NOT the topical kind though, that is crazy.
The Astressin-B itself, however, doesn’t seem too crazy.
There’s been no serious side effects noted on the mice trials.
How dangerous can it be?
Sarah, I’ve been reading hair loss forums for quite some time now and every new discovery with potential to help ends up being tested at home by someone, that’s how desperate many people are, hair loss wreaks havoc with many people’s lives and they are willing to go to extremes if necessary to try and get results. There’s nothing anyone can do to stop desperate people doing things like this and to be perfectly honest if I thought that some chemical could restore my hair but we didn’t know the side effects and it was going to take years to find out them I would probably do the same thing.
Lol…nanny… True though that no one should be injecting a topical product; most likely it contains preservatives and other nasty substances you wouldn’t want in your blood stream.
I’m sorry, but my heart goes out to those that are trying the compound. Is it incredibly dangerous? Yes, of course. Should they do it? Well I feel that is a matter of perspective. But I can understand their reasoning.
And the self-righteous and indignant people here should be ashamed for calling them insane.
These people live in a world that is constantly promising to reward their patience. For years, decades and more, they’ve been promised a solution is right around the corner. And every time they’ve been disappointed. And while no one that is a part of this research has made the claim that this is the final and best solution (or even a solution at all), everyone is treating this with so air of hope that is raising expectations unrealistically. The audience and the staff commenting here both are. Saying “we’re not definitely calling this a cure, but it seems like a good chance” can be just as damaging as outright calling it a cure.
Don’t think I am unappreciative of what you’re doing. It’s noble. You don’t have to foster this community and repeatedly update and comment it. But you do, which is selfless and respectful. I lurk here sometimes, and I am really impressed/appreciative of what you’re doing as far as handling community feedback. But sometimes you and more often your followers adopt a holier than thou response to anyone truly affected by their dilemma. Mostly just your followers.
These people are watching their life pass them by, and it feels like they’d be better off getting closure than stagnating their lives to the string of solutions and dreams that always seem just around the corner.
Shame on them? Shame on you for scolding them for patience. They probably aren’t making this choice to spite anyone. They just have no alternatives.
That’s how I feel about this situation and how everyone is treating it.
And for the record, I haven’t touched nor inquired about acquiring astressin-b.
Sarah,
Do you have a timeline for the various trial phases and possibly a scheduled release date?
Thanks
@Chuck
Very dangerous stuff that interacts directly with your central nervous system. Overdose can lead to variety of symptoms including coma or cardiac arrest. Look up Addissons disease. Speak with your Dr if you are going to attempt.
@Brad M
how do you know this stuff?
Sarah,
Do you have any idea as to when you think human trials will begin? There’s numerous peptide companies that offer the Astressin-B. I wanted to wait until human trials but I’m growing impatient as I feel it may not happen any time in the near future and I feel like this could finally be my answer!!! Do you think the human trials will happen soon?
Any feedback from the people using the stuff? Have they grown their hair back. If a grown man wants to use it then I say let him use it. The next thing they will be telling us is we can’t smoke in public ….oh wait….they already do!
I hope that on top of the obvious reasons everyone hopes this works, I hope that it also takes care of the annoying tingly feeling all over my scalp all the time! Hard to concentrate when you feel like your always being pricked!
Hey Sarah! Thank you and your team for what you are doing. I check this site every day now and I can’t tell you how excited I am to see how well this works. “Full recovery” seems too good to be true but I’m choosing to believe. A past post says that you expect Human Trials to start between Dec 1st and March 1st. Is there any way that your team can encourage whatever company takes your results and initiates human trials that your followers can be involved?
This company is actually not selling Astressin-b they are only selling Astressin, but they are labeling it under Astressin-b and people are getting ripped off. They are charging 89.99 for 5mg and people, even after being told and shown the amino acid sequences are the same as Astressin and not Astressin-b. Anyways, I figured I should report it here and hopefully the BBB or someone will do something about it. http://forums.rxmuscle.com/showthread.php?p=1551873 is the forum that is helping them push it, and deleting posts that are proving that it is in fact Astressin and not Astressin-b and this is the company actually selling the peptide. precisionpeptides.com I hope you can report them to someone and have them removed and or penalized.
I believe there is a consumer alert in the right sidebar that says something along these lines already.
There’s numerous other places to get the peptide. Not just the rxmuscle site.
Chuck, the rxmuscle site is NOT a place to get the peptide they are selling a fake product under an incorrect label. That was the entire point of my post…. Not to mention any of the other websites being spammed are 99% sure to be selling a fake product also.
Jake, sorry..but do you REALLY think that hair is worth dying for?? For god’s sake! My sister is suffering from cancer, she would give you her hair if you traded it for health.
Crazy…
Chuck, the problem is not the compound itself. Injecting a solution that was not prepared to be injected is not a good idea.
Jacob: I completely understand where you are coming from. Hair loss can take everything away from you, your identity and in some cases even your dreams, but trust me when I tell you that it is not worth dying for.
Brad: Precisely.
Jake: I understand, more than you know, but it’s simply NOT safe. There is no other way to put it.
I hear you Sarah! This hair loss can be very devastating to a lot of people including myself. That’s why we are all keeping our fingers crossed & hoping for the best outcome. Life is short & people have to realize there are lot of beautiful things in this world that makes us beautiful apart from this hair problem.
I am a victim of a constant stress and furthermore I loses my hair
Thank you for what you make no matter the result
Sarah, guys can you update a bit more about the side effects observed? And whether a topical solution could be similar? I ordered SpectralF7 already and plan to use it with Minox, but came across this site just today. Just wanted to make sure that it astressin-B does not have a link to any long term serious issues like heart disease, liver damage, cancer etc that some other “solutions” to MPB have eg spiro. Any thoughts you may have based on your research would be very helpful.
I might suggest gallbladder enlargement or gallstones. I don’t know what effectiveness the F7 stuff will have though and the effects are dosage dependent.
Jason,
I was wondering, although I have thinned diffusely mostly on top and there is somewhat of a pattern, do you think that there is a pattern to stress induced hairloss? I am interested because the mice also lost only the hairs on top of their backs which seems like the stress caused a patterned loss that was reversed by astressin-b.
Thanks!
Hey Sarah,
I recently got a saliva testing done. My morning cortisol level is very high & testosterone level is slightly high. Now I am wondering if the hair loss in my case is stress related or could it still be female pattern hair loss/ chronic telogen effluvium. If possible, please let me know your thoughts. Thank you
Thanks for the heads up Brad. Does a dosage of 15mcg/day for an average human sound too high? This assuming (for rough calculations sake), that it all gets topically absorbed
Refer PR lit from DSK below:
http://dslaboratories.com/spectralf7/
The 15 ppm of astressin-B in Spectral.F7 is higher than the concentrations of most peptides in topical products. The widely used biotinoyl tripeptide-1, for example, is recommended at a concentration of 5 ppm, and topical products usually contain between 2.5 and 5 ppm. The 15 µg daily dose of astressin-B in Spectral.F7 (10 sprays twice per day) is three times as much as the 5 µg daily dose injected into mice during the published study. Nanosome encapsulation further potentiates the delivery of astressin-B in Spectral.F7.
@arun
I haven’t tried to figure out the dosage conversion, from mice to human. It would be really nice if DSLaboratories released their research documentation. Considering the fact that their are other ingredients in their product, I would assume that it’s not enough to hurt you. You really should be speaking with your doctor to make sure your healthy enough to try it.
Brad – most doctors (I am based out of India), I know of, wouldnt know much beyond their immediate field of study. Yeah, I am worried about health, but which doc would you reccomend being a good choice, an endocrinologist or a specialist of some sort? I really cant think of anyone of them “recommending” any product beyond whats available from big name pharma, and even there, most dont even seem to know propecia etc have severe side effects. The urologists (who see its effect first hand) dont talk to the derms who prescribe it (seriously) while both are specialists sitting in the same place
Sarah, any one else – could you comment on the dose in the astressin b compound (spectral f7). I know you are concerned about people trying to self experiment so I am not looking for specifics, just a headsup on whether the amount in f7 is safe (even if relatively ineffective).
The product does not appear to have the peptide in it and the treatment would likely have zero effect topically or otherwise.
To be clear zero effect on hair growth.
I am little skeptic of astressin b working on humans . Because Someone in world by now must have tested it on himself and didn’t got any result. if it had worked then he must be jumping like mouse in internet forums publishing his success story. it has been months since the report about mice regrowing hair has been published. I even think that hair loss sufferer scientists working on astressin b must have conducted test on himself or someone else willing to volunteer by now
@arun I guess it’s just a marketing trying to use the results of Astressin-B. Even if it contains the genuine compound with “auxiliary peptides” that’s a new compound then, with unknown results. But in my opinion (im not a doc) it won’t be absorbed through the skin, or just a minor dose, that will be ineffective. I won’t buy it, waiting for the proper Astressin-B human trials. I wholeheartedly thank Sarah, Jason, and the whole team, and everyone working on this fabulous new opportunity to solve the hair loss problem of millions, that has been caused by crazy stressful life. I’m looking forward to the final report.
Marina: People have died for a lot less. And I’m not actually interested in trying this product, but my best friend is going through this condition and it’d be great if one day I could tell him that the depression he’s putting himself through doesn’t have to be. He is the one that considered taking this drug before it is tested. I told him not to. But I didn’t guilt him into submission or call him crazy that he considered it. And if he did try it and died, I wouldn’t have the contempt for his convictions that you seem so readily to give.
Also, cancer? Please.
I have loved ones that have succumbed to cancer, and I’d gladly trade this drug for a cure for that. We all have sob stories and things we wish we could change. But cancer has no place in this argument. Sorry for your sister, but using her to prove a point that doesn’t belong here is moot. For gods sake, indeed…
Sarah: I’m not arguing that it isn’t safe. I’m just saying that I feel where these people are coming from. Taking this drug before testing is unsafe, but I think you guys (more specifically your followers) could show a little more tact when explaining to people that they shouldn’t take Astressin-b before it has been deemed safe. And also, I’m more concerned with people calling this an end-all-be-all solution to hair loss. It’s not even to human trials yet, why are people here giving it such praise and then demeaning others who are acting on that praise?
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In the mean time while we wait for who knows what- shave ur head and take the hair clippings and get some super glue.
Jake you’re being absurd. People have died for less? Saying that doesn’t justify a loss simply that unjustifiable losses occur. Your friend also does not have an admirable conviction, simply a form of hysteria. It is an unstable mind that would potentially and wilfully cause injury to their person for an unready remedy. Cancer does have a place in this argument in that you can’t elevate a condition (AAP) to be so unbearable that it supplants other mortal sorrows in life. Your friend needs some perspective on mortality and patience for the end of 2011.
Sarah is waiting for your new Parcel C, said at least if we walk on Asstresin b baldness
I’m going crazy waiting every day every hour on the site I am hoping that you tried posted
thank you in advance.
I agree. This is driving me crazy though I know its still a ways off before anything can really happen. It would make me (and others) feel better to know there is hope! Does anyone know when we can expect the results?
Sarah gives us new or I’ll b inject asstresin b in topic
Hello has all I wait as you every for news(for short stories) of astrassin b I am impatient because I have not more than hairs of bottom on my crane. Sarah I you suppli I can more wait longer. My friend my left, I have been turned of my work and my family want more of me
Fred, one, no one can even understand your broken english posts they are impossible to read. Secondly, no one cares, they posted that preliminary report will be posted on the 15th, instead of spamming the board and trying to “threaten” them into posting new info, why don’t you go and do something productive with your life and check back here later. Besides, even when they post the update what’s it going to do for you? Absolutely nothing. It might be interesting information and look promising, but it’s still not going to give you back your hair. Your going to have to wait for human trials to know that. So stop freaking out and throwing a hissy fit like a little 2 year old kid. Grow up.
I’m going crazy too.
In this case, no news is NOT good news.
I really hope this isn’t filed in the ’still years down the road’ category.
Sarah where did you go???????
Seriously, look at the post called “Research Project’s Schedule”. Preliminary Report October 15th. Chill out. Your going to make yourself lose hair faster.
Hello community! thank you for your patience and support, a status update will be posted very soon, but most importantly, our preliminary report is about to be released.
Fred, you are more than happy to attend this community, unfortunately we are restricting your posting rights at the moment.
Hey Billy, it you I saw when you go to pill and remember to wait no happen when I start on hill. So chill you begin on the mill before we all still be here…… Also………. I see dead people!!!!!!!!!
Fred, looks like u were shut DOWN – no worries though. … we were all tired of reading ur useless posts! …….we all come to this site to get meaning insight on how to grow hair on something besides our sack. Dang did I just say that – well Fred u may have company after all……. Please Gemma don’t do me like u did Fred! I promise to be better. Scouts honor
Texas in 5 – and on another note how do the Cardinals keep making it to the World Series – that team is blessed. Tony L. may be the greatest manager ever! U got Any response to that comment Fred – Oh wait – never mind Fred I forgot u been ……BLOCKED…… oops
Scoobie you are really unfunny
People , I have started using the Astressin – B from DS Labratories along with my regular minoxidil 5% and aminexil.
Take it from a person who is at 5 of Baldness scale and suffering since the age of 15. This products works wonderfully ( obviously you have to be patient and have some common sense not to overdo ). I am seeing positive regrowth at the vertex and the top part of the head. They are not fine hair but solid black hair. Also, my suggestion to take a good FIsh oil capsule and Vitamin E &C .
The trick is to apply Astressin – B 10 – 15 mins post minoxidil application two times a day.
Make sure you shampoo with a non sles product everyday( this is my routine), on somedays you can use olive oil post minox and not to use astressin- B.
John Martin,
You’re an idiot.